Biden's Cancer Bombshell: Coincidence or Calculated?
The White House has a new crisis on its hands, and it's not just medical. President Biden's aggressive prostate cancer diagnosis dropped like a bomb this week, leaving Americans with more questions than answers. Was this really breaking news to his medical team, or just to us? Today's episode digs into the suspicious timing, the convenient narrative shifts, and the uncomfortable question we’re all asking: How long have they been hiding this from the American people?
When Hollywood Scripts Become Political Reality
Remember "Wag the Dog"? That satirical film about manufacturing a fake war to distract from a presidential scandal? Suddenly, it's feeling less like fiction and more like a White House playbook. Biden's cancer announcement didn't just appear out of thin air – it emerged precisely when other damaging stories were gaining traction. Coincidence? Maybe. Strategic? Almost certainly.
The Timeline Doesn't Add Up
Let's get real for a minute. Aggressive cancer that has spread to your bones doesn't develop overnight, especially with the world's best medical team monitoring your every vital sign. The question isn't just about Biden's health; it's about who knew what, when they knew it, and why they decided Americans didn't deserve to know. Although our first reaction was certainly one of compassion for the struggle that Joe Biden now has to face with such a concerning diagnosis, it does leave a lot of questions unanswered.
The Power Game Behind Closed Doors
This isn't just about one man's medical chart. It's about a system that prioritizes power over transparency, political advantage over public trust. If Biden's inner circle knew about his condition earlier, they made a calculated decision to keep voters in the dark. Of course, we will probably never know this for sure, and it may very well be that it’s not as “calculated” as the conspiracy theorists out there are making it out to be. Though, regardless of which side of the fence you sit both Republicans and Democrats should be asking the same question: Is this how we want our democracy to function?
The Democratic Party at a Crossroads
The tremors from this revelation could reshape the Democratic landscape. The party faces a reckoning: continue with leadership models built on backroom deals and information control, or embrace a new generation of leaders who understand that today's voters demand transparency and authenticity. This could be the catalyst that forces Democrats to evolve beyond the politics of the past.
This moment of crisis could become the turning point that pushes both parties toward more honest engagement with the American people. Perhaps the silver lining in this troubling cloud is the opportunity to demand better from those who seek to lead us.
As this story continues to unfold, we're left navigating a political landscape where truth seems optional and timing is everything. The diagnosis itself deserves compassion – cancer doesn't discriminate between Republicans and Democrats. But the handling of this information deserves scrutiny from every American who believes in their right to make informed decisions about their leadership.
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Nicole: She's a conservative and I'm liberal, and yet we've been friends for almost 40 years. Everyone says you shouldn't discuss politics, religion, or money. We say, that's exactly what friends should be talking about. Join us as we tackle the conversations you're having in your head, but are too scared to say out loud. Hello, Jolene?
Jolene: Hi.
Nicole: so let's just get into this. We had a totally different topic ready to go.
Jolene: Ah,
Nicole: And we gotta talk about Biden and his diagnosis.
Jolene: don't wanna keep just regurgitating what everybody else is saying, so I think we need to talk about it in terms of, what our gut reaction is to, to the news.
I mean, you know, the, the gut reaction is. Oh my gosh, this poor man has, has cancer, right? I mean, that's the, like, first and foremost, that needs to be, I hope, I hope that is everybody's reaction, however, the [00:01:00] timing of this seems more than coincidental. The timing of releasing this news on the heels of Axios that released the audio of, of the, her interview that happened in October of 23, and the transcripts were actually released last year. But the impact of it, of, of actually listening to 'em that were released last, last week are.
Horrendous and two new books have been released this week too, , which we're gonna be very incriminating of the Bidens and their Inner Circle and the Democratic Party and, and the machine. So it's, you know, you and I reference.
wag the dog all the time. The, the movie. If you've not seen the movie, please watch. It's, it's a funny kind of satirical, but God, a lot of truth. I know, right? I think when it, when it came out 20 years ago, we all thought it was funny and [00:02:00] satirical and now we're like, God, there's so much truth to this.
So, I think we gotta dig in deeper here and. do you think this information was kept or do you really think that it was just that they just found his prostate cancer to be at this advanced stage last week? I.
Nicole: Well, I think they kept a lot from us, not just the cancer, the cancer, truly. They might, they might not have tested him. There was so much denial, leading up to, uh, this second election. I listened to, to part of the Axio tapes, obviously it's five hours, so I didn't have time. but I listened to some of it. I listened to the New Yorker Radio Hour, the interview with, , Jake Tapper and Thompson. I listened to the Megan Kelly, uh. Interview with, uh, the fifth column guys, which they have a podcast.
I happened to listen to this [00:03:00] America Fox America's newsroom clip from last Friday pre-cancer diagnosis. I listened to it because of another episode that we're doing where we listen to each other's media. a couple things, I'm gonna start with that, that happened on Friday, pre-cancer diagnosis or public cancer diagnosis. they were doing an interview with, uh, McCarthy. it was, uh, Purino and Bill Hemmer, your people.
Jolene: Yeah.
Nicole: And one thing that I observed is different, it a, a different lens than, let's say the liberal media was, well, Kevin McCarthy, he was so smug
and they were talking about this coverup, and they had the three talking heads. And then on the right of the screen they had video of every fall flub,
Jolene: Hmm.
Nicole: him falling, him tripping. And this is again, pre-cancer. [00:04:00] And I was like, wow, this is so mean.
Jolene: Hmm.
Nicole: So uncaring, like I felt during the debate, I have a mother and a stepmother that died of dementia. I know this disease well. I know he hasn't been diagnosed with it, but the shuffling. I knew this man wasn't okay, as did many Americans the left and the right for years,
Jolene: Yeah.
Nicole: and no one stopped him. And I believe that like Sh Schumer, Pelosi, Democratic National Committee, they all need to go. They don't give a shit about him. They give a shit about their power, it's really, upsetting that as [00:05:00] a liberal, a Democrat and just a human being, that we care more about what it looks like and our tribalism and who's gonna beat Trump than it is about this human being that needs care.
Jolene: okay, so why do you think they wanted him to run?
Nicole: because they too afraid to run anyone else. It was all about beating Trump. And there's also ego. And the other thing with these illnesses, and again, I know he is not diagnosed with dementia, but I saw a lot of similarities. That there is real in and out people can be totally clear and then gone let me say this, when you have someone that you care about that's slipping, there's a ton of denial. can happen for months and sometimes years that you're like, oh, [00:06:00] he's okay. No, I've,
Jolene: Yeah.
Nicole: I was with him, like that's, that's the new term when I was with him so that no one is culpable.
When I was with him, said Blinken. He was great. Really?
Jolene: Why do you think they did that? You are real pissed. Okay, but why do you think, why do you think that if, if they knew, and I'm not even talking about the cancer because I, I think that's another thing. the free press had an article on and they interviewed three different doctors, familiar with, you know, cancer, prostate cancer, and, and advanced cancers.
And they all said, no, this is not something that that just popped up. And especially when you're the president of the United States who has every resource and every doctor available to you. This was not something. And then, and then I think one of them said, well, it's not, I don't routinely check PSA levels once you're past 70 [00:07:00] and, and two of these doctors said you're the president of the United States.
You check for absolutely everything. That is not true.
Nicole: I have like from the quick deep dive I did in the last 24 hours, one thing that is was came clear over and over and over again was even as doctors that no one wanted to look
Jolene: Because Afraid of what they'd see.
Nicole: correct. No one wanted to tell him you know, and he is got ego, like there was this protection
because they thought no one else could beat Trump,
Jolene: they thought that that was their best shot. I mean, look at the polling that was done. and this was probably pre-debate, and then after debate, they were like the wow. I mean, the polling showed that he didn't have a chance in hell.
Nicole: But he, listen, the decline happened way before the debate.
Jolene: Yes.
Nicole: they were talking about how during, like he was a perfect Covid president because we were all [00:08:00] so isolated, he could only do Zoom.
Jolene: Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Nicole: him like
Jolene: Yeah.
Nicole: was scripted
Jolene: Okay. So wait, right there. If everything was scripted, who was running the show? I. Who was running the presidency? Who was running our, our country? Who was writing the scripts? If everything was scripted? Who was writing those scripts?
Nicole: from what I'm gathering, even the cabinet was isolated. the Congress was isolated. That was the aids. Like these people were like devout to him you know, loyal they loved him I'm so mad.
these people, all of these people, like there was an interview with Schumer and he's like, let's just, we're not looking back I want a party that responsibility. Do you know how amazing that would be to be like, we screwed up.[00:09:00]
Jolene: Okay, so there's something I wanna get to. I wanna get, I wanna get there, but I, I know, but I need you to help me get there.
Nicole: Okay. I'm ready.
Jolene: Do you really believe that he was the only one in the Democratic party that had a chance to beat Trump?
Nicole: did. No, no, no, I didn't.
Jolene: Okay. Okay. All right. So there could have been, if they would've had a primary, they would've had somebody.
Nicole: Jolene, I think you could ask probably almost every Democrat, and they would believe what I believe
Jolene: Okay.
Nicole: were like, why is this guy running again? He said he wasn't going to run and now he's running. This makes no sense. Like have the confidence that there are many people out there that we have at primary.
I mean, it's this whole thing, like these boomers won't leave.
Jolene: So is it,
Nicole: are supposed to be the grownups and they don't give us a shot.
Jolene: so do you think there were people in his inner circle that were actually running things? That he had no [00:10:00] control at all. Like he didn't ha, he didn't cognitively know what was going on enough to, when they said, you need to do this, he just did it because he wasn't.
Nicole: No, I don't think he's that out of it. I listened to an hour of the five hours Axios thing and there were moments that he is totally on.
Jolene: and that interview was in October of 23.
Nicole: and they're saying it happened. You know, stuff happened in 21. I'm sure it did. I.
Jolene: Isaac, Saul even talked about, he goes, no, I, I saw it in 17. I mean,
Nicole: he did. I remember that. He,
Jolene: yeah.
Nicole: and that was the other thing, Jolene, that when, if it was a Republican, a Democrat, didn't matter. A journalist who's supposed to be nonpartisan, they would ask if anyone, I. Brought up, are you too old? Do you not have the cognitive, um, faculties? The media would ram it down their throats.
Jolene: gaslight them. Yep. Yep.
Nicole: And now everyone's like, oh my God. And I'm like, [00:11:00] you know what? You fuckers,
Jolene: Sorry Linda.
Nicole: deserved. Listen, take, take responsibility.
Jolene: I get how mad you are, but I, we've got to get, we've got to get to why, why, why, why Why did they think that they could continue to weekend at Bernie? Him? and get him to be the puppet. you look at Susan Rice, um, and Samantha Power, were they these, um, inner circle advisors that maybe didn't have the political capital to run themselves, but they found the power and, and let's say there's five of 'em. You know, let's say that there were five really.
smart people around Biden who said, we can run this country ourselves. We, we just need him as the figurehead. do you think that could be a possibility?
Nicole: I don't think it's as pointed as that. I think it's more fear based. I. Honestly, I think it's two things. [00:12:00] I think fear-based and it is power. I think they're afraid of losing their jobs and they like their jobs and they like running the country.
Jolene: Yeah. Okay.
Nicole: like anyone in a corporation that's afraid they're gonna get their job taken away there. It's that sort of like there's a, I would imagine it's more panic than like, ooh.
Jolene: Well, okay, let's just say it. It started out a necessity. Let's say it started in his first. term, I mean, it's only term, but his first, you know, that it came outta necessity that okay, everything's gotta be scripted. And even, I mean, they were saying that even, you know, questions with donors were planted.
Like he knew the questions and he knew the answers. And I think this came out of the, the, the New York Times podcast that you had me listen to this morning and. Yes, the daily Thank you. and that the people had the questions. This is the question you're gonna answer. You are gonna be called to, I mean, it was also scripted, like everything was scripted.
So if that's the case, if they have [00:13:00] to do that type of, of maneuvering, in, you know, 22 and 23, like how did they even fathom that he could run a second term?
Nicole: I don't know. I
Jolene: Okay. Okay. Right. We, we, no, none of us can fathom that, right?
Nicole: and it, I guess through history, there have been, I don't cover ups the wrong word, but like maybe cover ups of presidents who have been ill during office and they're like, oh, what? Nothing to see here.
Jolene: Yeah.
Nicole: here. part of it. I imagine, let's play with this a second. Let's say he gets elected fairly soon after things start to get little bit tricky with him. I would imagine there's a national security issue of, like, uhoh, how do we keep us all safe versus going. You know what?
You guys in [00:14:00] America, Biden's not, okay, we need to actually do something now. what? Like that's never happened. I think it would be incredible, but I think it would probably not be in our securities interest. I don't know,
Jolene: So
Nicole: what I want. I want transparency,
Jolene: hundred percent
Nicole: but it's never been done.
Jolene: right. Okay, so may I posit this?
Nicole: Yes.
Jolene: What if this diagnosis of the prostate cancer and it was aggressive and it's an aggressive form and it's metastasizing, was actually available a year ago, let's say. Could they have said at that point it's too late to get somebody else to run. what we need to do is just get him through the election and then Kamala will be the president.
Nicole: maybe.
Jolene: and that everybody was on, on board with that plan. It could have been a year ago, whatever. Until he screwed [00:15:00] up the, the debate and then all of a sudden they went, oh shit. Uh, we're gonna have to do Kamala right now. And then she blew it.
Could that, I mean, is that plausible?
Nicole: Well, listen, I just heard something on the New Yorker News Hour where it was the interview with Jake Tapper and. is his name Mark
Jolene: A, I think it's Alex. I.
Nicole: I'm sorry. Sorry. Alex. Alex Thompson. they talked about how, well there's a couple things. Like, there's so much ego and so many resentments throughout the years, he's a real human being, but like there's some like incredible love for Obama and resentment for Obama,
and he never forgot Kamala. Talked about the busing, like I was bused. do you remember that debate when Kamala really put him [00:16:00] in his place
Jolene: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Nicole: was talking about,
Jolene: yeah,
Nicole: Joe, I was bused too, like, and,
Jolene: yeah.
Nicole: Supposedly Joe never forgot it to this day. Never forgot it.
Jolene: And certainly Jill didn't.
Nicole: correct. he really loved Whitmer, but felt pressed to nominate Kamala.
Jolene: But he said he was gonna nominate a black woman. I mean, he said that early that it was gonna be a black woman as his vp.
Nicole: Whitmer. So there was, unless I misunderstood this episode that I just listened to, there was talk that he wanted to, don't know if there was time for a primary but nominate, maybe even Whitmer, not Kamala, to replace him.
There was like a statement and Kamala was like, uh, are you gonna name me? And he's like, and so there was this [00:17:00] whole kerfuffle with the, all the, the Bidens and this other family, and, and then all of a sudden it was Kamala. Like, I remember I was working out downstairs and I was like, what? Like, hold on. Like why can't we. Choose and have faith that if she, if we want her, then we'll choose her. It was maddening. Now, in terms of the cancer thing, I totally understand why you might think, that the timing's a little suspicious, but like in the release of it, about the knowledge that he has cancer. but I also wonder because they were so protective and they truly were not tests that they should have been giving tests to that now he could be doing the tests.
Now, I only say this because, and again. a lot of, when I am with you and we talk, like I make things very personal, [00:18:00] I just know that when my dad was diagnosed with cancer, it was very advanced and he was not well for a while and he just didn't wanna go to the doctor. Now I know he is not the president, but I also know that they were trying not to deal with it. Like you said, they, maybe they wanted to just like, let's just get another term. Then we'll, we'll deal with it once he gets through, and then maybe we'd actually let the doctor do the tests that we're suspicious of
this is the only reason that I think maybe was that instead of what you're thinking is that if he was diagnosed with. advanced cancer that they would start to treat it immediately
Jolene: Well, that was one of the art, uh, other articles that I read was that because it's a hormonal. This aggressive type of cancer is due to hormones [00:19:00] yeah. Is hormonal. That part of the treatment is to do like an anti testosterone or take away testosterone or whatever treatment.
And some of the side effects of that is, you know, cognitive decline. muscle mass. Uh, so that would, you know, explain the shuffling and the so maybe he was being treated for it. And again, they did not release it.
Nicole: what article that was? Where you got that article?
Jolene: I think that was the free press article that was talking about the, that was interviewing the three doctors that Yeah.
We're familiar with. Yeah. so let me take this a little bit. St I wanna go a little bit deeper here, here's my concern now is that, that I think so many Democrats like you are so pissed off at. The whole Democrat machine
Nicole: Yeah.
Jolene: that I am concerned that somebody like Bernie and a OC is really gaining traction because so much trust has been [00:20:00] lost in the mainstream Democratic party those.
Nicole: gonna go farther? Right? Left.
Jolene: think it'll go so far left that, that this, this whole thing, the Biden Health, the Biden presidency, the Kamala loss to Trump, all of that is truly going to be the impetus be behind a generational change of the Democratic party. I mean, 'cause you had so many Democrats that voted for Trump, right?
I mean, so there were so many people that I think the Democratic Party now will look for, you know, who we are, who are we, and they're going to, to come up with something that's so far out of the middle of the road It's gonna be the a OC and the Bernies and that whole, you know, the, what we're seeing on college campuses, and it's gonna be the, you know, this new generation of Democrats that get their, their energy and their strength from, you [00:21:00] know, this, this fringe.
What I think, and I, and I, I think that you think is kind of a fringe element of the Democratic party.
Nicole: I mean, I personally like, I like Bernie a lot. I think he's too old to be the president again to, I like AOCs.
Jolene: Lipstick.
Nicole: I like her lipstick, and I like that she seems unafraid and passionate. I like that. I don't think she's should be president either. I think when they talk about the next generation of Democrats, I, I actually think about being our age, not the kids. the old boomers need to get the F out. They all need to get out. Schumer Pelosi, you've had a great run. Get out, get out to get out, get out and give the new grownups a shot
Jolene: Who are those?
Nicole: you obviously have Gavin. follow Pete Buttigieg. I think he's [00:22:00] fantastic. he's so smart, so even so innovative. I think he's one, I think one, those are the people.
Jolene: Okay. Okay.
Nicole: are gonna come up. because they also understand as the new grownups we need to stop this divisiveness. That doesn't mean that we agree with everything the other person says,
Jolene: Yeah,
Nicole: try to figure out a way have real conversations and come together and work together.
Jolene: I hope you're right. I hope you are right.
Nicole: just talking to my friends and even, you know, interacting with viewers, viewers and listeners who are on the left, they are just as frustrated, um, and exhausted as I am as you are.
Jolene: Well, I know that you were a Bernie fan, so I'm glad to hear you say though that I think what you're [00:23:00] saying is you would rather see someone a little more centrist.
Nicole: has been consistent from day one.
Jolene: True.
Nicole: has a message and he tells it and he brings all kinds of people out to listen to him. And that I is what I dig. working class people like him. Elites like him, like he's just a smart. Straight arrow guy. no bs. He's not locked in. He's not in all of the nonsense. And that's why I like him. and pairing up with a OC, I think they're like trying to take the country's temperature. I'm naive. I don't think they're doing it to run for p the president. I think they're trying to take the temperature in terms of well, 'cause Bernie's an independent,
Jolene: do you think he's a socialist?
Nicole: I don't know. he's not a fan of Trump. Let's go, let's go with that. But
Jolene: Oh hell, right. Yeah.
Nicole: I think they're out there taking the temperature to see [00:24:00] okay. And talking to people and like, what do we do for next time? what do people care about? and he is just delivering the message he's delivered for the last 30 years. People are wanting to listen. They're scared, they're tired, they're I really think the, in terms of the Democratic party, gosh, we are so exhausted with the lies
Jolene: Right.
Nicole: and now, you know, if there's anything good that's coming out of it, maybe I. People will stand up and say, enough.
Jolene: Yeah.
Nicole: I feel totally naive. This is politics,
Jolene: we're seeing it.
Nicole: more than me. Like you've understood that way more than I have.
Jolene: but I see, I think you are an idealist, which is a really typical liberal. I mean, we're all human and we all just can't, we all just get along. And I'm [00:25:00] more of a conspiracy theorist, and I'm like, I think everybody is, there's an ulterior motive to everything. and I don't know if that's a conservative thing or if that's just a personal thing for me.
That's probably a personal thing,
Nicole: yeah.
Jolene: but, so I think, yeah, I, I just think that things are so much deeper than what we see that there's, you know, 12 layers that we don't see. And I think this Biden, this whole conversation about Biden has, has really has brought that out.
Nicole: absolutely. And I. You know, what do we do about it? I guess we, we vote new people in. the only thing we can do about it. It's not like if we just go, oh, we can't do anything about it, then it's gonna gonna stay the same on the right too. Like you want people to advocate for what you want and need,
Jolene: Yeah.
Nicole: if they're just busy trying to figure out how to stay in power. That's not helpful to me or to you,
Jolene: [00:26:00] Yeah,
but again, the, I mean, you were so disenchanted With Hillary getting the nomination over, Sanders, I mean, and wasn't that the doing of the Democratic party that they handpicked her?
Nicole: Oh, absolutely. I mean, listen, I
Jolene: And so then how do you have any power?
Nicole: Even though you did not.
Jolene: I know
Nicole: I did and I was so excited that we were gonna get a woman president and all of that, but. as I said, I guess in a different episode at that Democratic convention, I was like, Ew, he was robbed.
Jolene: So how do you, how do you think that, that you can, when you say, we can just vote in, we gotta vote in the right people. That was, that was rigged. I mean, how, I mean. Don't you? How do you have faith in a system? And then, and then this has happened with Biden. Again, you're going the system. There are people on the inside who are making these decisions, and we as individuals [00:27:00] are completely powerless
Nicole: like the Democratic National Committee, in my opinion, they all need to be fired. They all need to go. They do not get it. They don't care that they don't get it, and they do not get it.
Jolene: I agree.
Nicole: how one does that,
I'll just say this. If Democrats want to get into power again, have to fire everyone. And then Democratic National Committee and all the, all the oldies, oldies and goodies. Gotta go, gotta go.
Jolene: I hope it's not at the peril of, of. Our United States and that you go off the deep end and you get somebody, you do, you get a socialist instead of a a true Democrat. I hope the Democrats can come up with a centrist.
Nicole: I, at this point would just like a really good, clear-minded, middle aged
Jolene: I am sorry, Gavin. Gavin, is that you?
Nicole: Maybe, [00:28:00] maybe
Jolene: did.
Nicole: Maybe it's Pete.
Jolene: yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay, good. All right. Good.
Nicole: that's what I want. What
were
Jolene: Okay, good. that I listened to the podcast you sent me on Gavin Newsom, um, with Frank Lutz and I love Frank Lutz. And so that was so good and I, again, I did it on my walk, so I only got to listen to about half hour of it.
the respect that they have for each other is so great and I loved that.
Nicole: That's why I sent it to you. I thought, here you go.
He's frustrated.
Jolene: yeah.
Nicole: frustrated too. Just like. I am just like you are. Like, he wants people to work together
Jolene: Yep.
Nicole: be considerate and respectful
Jolene: And that's why we're here.
Nicole: that is why we're here. That is why we're here. Do you have a, would you rather,
Jolene: I do.
Nicole: all right,
Jolene: Well, you go. No, you go first this time.
Nicole: Would you rather find a rat in your kitchen
Jolene: Oh God.
Nicole: [00:29:00] or a roach in your bed?
Jolene: Oh, Roach.
Nicole: You'd
Jolene: roach in my bed. Yeah, A rat. Okay. But here's the thing about rats. I had never seen a rat until we moved to New Orleans and Jeff and I were sitting out on our front porch one night, like, and it was, you know, dark. I mean it was, you know, at nine o'clock or 10 o'clock at night. And, and we're looking up at the power lines and we see like a rat running across the power line.
And I'm like, was that a squirrel? I'm like, okay. No, it's a night squirrel. I mean, people call rats in New Orleans night squirrels because you got squirrels during the day and rats at night. Rats are just going from like power pole, I mean, and I'm like, it's a rat. I'd never seen a rat before. That was disgusting.
Nicole: you've never seen a rat before. You lived near farms in
Jolene: We have mice. We have mice. we had mice all the time. I mean, mice is [00:30:00] so common. Like the, A mouse is nothing. A rat is huge and it's got a long tail and it's disgusting.
Nicole: so anytime you came to to New York and you.
Jolene: Never,
Nicole: You never saw the rats in the
Jolene: never saw a rat in a sub.
Nicole: the garbage on
Jolene: Never. Never. Oh God. Okay, stop. Seriously, that gives me goosebumps.
Nicole: So gross.
Jolene: So give me a bug in my bed that I can kill. Yeah, a rat, because I can kill a, and I can kill a roach, A rat. How do you, how are you gonna get a rat? Oh God. I can't even Would you rather spend a week in a childcare center or a week in a nursing home?
Nicole: Oh, childcare center any day.
Jolene: Oh, really?
Nicole: kids
when they scream.
Jolene: No. Yeah.
Nicole: one of my jobs, like, uh. When I had graduated from college before I moved to New [00:31:00] York, we had a family friend that owned these, it was called Marin Day School and she had like afterschool programs and daycare programs and it went from babies to, I think it was eighth grade and I was the sub.
So I moved from like infants to, I loved the five to eight year olds. They were my favorite.
Jolene: Really,
Nicole: Yeah. I love them.
Jolene: you are a kid at heart, so that makes sense.
Nicole: and when, and honestly, like old people, I know you're a fan. And here I am saying get the old people out so rude. I don't, you guys, you know, I don't mean it like that.
I mean it like,
Jolene: What does Bob
Nicole: you've, you've,
Jolene: au think of this right now?
Nicole: uh, you've done a great job, boomers. It's time to let us do the, do the job now. Bob OT is a child at heart too.
Jolene: Okay. All right.
Nicole: He's, he, remember, he's a, he swears and he around and, but [00:32:00] yeah, I mean, I remember being a little girl and us going to nursing homes as a field trip and it scared the crap out of me.
Jolene: Really. Oh.
Nicole: I didn't like this smell and it just me out. But to be fair, like I go visit. Go hang out at the senior living with my dad. And it's, they're super sweet. But yeah, I'd rather hang out with the
Jolene: Childcare. Okay. I like it
Nicole: I might regret this 'cause the screaming is too much. Too much. All right, my friend.
Jolene: Thank you once again for having a good conversation.
Nicole: Thank you. And um. I'll see you on the flip.
Jolene: Okay.
Nicole: all for listening, and going on this ride with us.
Jolene: Thank you.
